Sneakylong My comment was a tongue-in-cheek comment on why Weirfan was using this format when everyone else was using +/- to par. For me to establish what McIlroy scores were available, I had to go find what the par is at Pebble to calculate Weirfan's guess. As SVonhof pointed out, my calculation put Weirfan's guess as -1, which made me think that either he thought Pebble was going to play REALLY tough or there was forecast for a hurricane. Nevertheless, I do appreciate your effort to clarify things for me.